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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2009 9:50 am

is it good?

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2009 3:36 pm

I don't know I think so. It's mainly solo work but there are some songs with singing. I think he's Christian but I'm not sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2009 5:12 pm

I remember when you said a7x were Christians lol

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2009 6:02 pm

BECAUSE THEY ARE......


in a way.

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no way

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeSun May 10, 2009 4:50 pm

YEEES.

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeMon May 11, 2009 10:23 am

how could they be??

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeTue May 12, 2009 8:52 pm

I don't understand....

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeWed May 13, 2009 5:58 pm

yes you don't

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeWed May 13, 2009 8:44 pm

One. They were raised Catholic. There's one way they could be Christian.

Two. They take half their songs from the Bible...

Three. I've never noticed any time where they actually take God's name in vain.

Four. Some of their songs definitely have Christian-ish lyrics. like Lost, Dear God, Unbound.

Five. I've read an interview where Synyster Gates talked briefly about there being a God. Which isn't quite Christianity, but still.

SO THERE.

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeFri May 15, 2009 7:06 pm

yeah but many of their songs don't sound like it

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeSat May 16, 2009 1:18 pm

OK, so you have one point against my 5?

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeSat May 16, 2009 1:23 pm

yes

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeSun May 17, 2009 1:51 pm

Until you can disprove my points, we're still able to conclude with reasonable evidence that they are indeed Christians.

I'm thinking about talking like this from now on, yes?

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that is not reasonable evidence

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeSun May 17, 2009 8:20 pm

But until you can prove that it ISN'T reasonable evidence, then it IS reasonable evidence.

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 1:49 pm

for all we know they could be mormons

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 8:23 pm

Uh... Mormon still somewhat equals Christian, depending on who it is.

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeTue May 19, 2009 4:37 pm

um no I don't think you know who they are then.

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeTue May 19, 2009 8:24 pm

It depends. Like Catholics can be Christians. All Christian means is

You believe Jesus Christ was the son of God, died on the cross for your sins, and the only way to heaven is through him.


But over the years we've started to focus on things that don't matter at all, like Election. People spend so much time arguing and fighting over it, when it really doesn't matter.

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yeah I agree with you but what is election?

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeWed May 20, 2009 8:39 am

Election is the idea that before we were born God had already set who would go to heaven and who wouldn't. We have no power over it, either we were destined to choose Jesus or we weren't.

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeThu May 21, 2009 11:46 am

Oh you mean Calvinison. I believe in both that and free will because they are both talked about in the Bible.

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PostSubject: Re: Red vs Blue   Red vs Blue - Page 17 Icon_minitimeThu May 21, 2009 12:29 pm

Yeah, Calvinism is the same as Election. It's also called Predestination.

And I agree, the way I see it is you can't look at it as one or the other because there are flaws in each one if you take it by itself.

Problem with Predestination - This means God doesn't love everyone, because he WANTS people to go to hell. God can do whatever he wants, and if there is no human choice than God said "Yes..I want him to go to hell and his brother to go to heaven". Then it would also come in that if you were elected, no matter what you did in life, you'd go to heaven. Same applies vice versa, it means if you weren't elected, you could lead a blameless life and try your hardest to please God in everything, and still go the Hell because you weren't elected.

Problem with Free Will: God isn't all knowing. If it's only free will then God creates people without knowing whether they'll choose him or not, which isn't true either.

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I believe that we have a choice to accept God or not but God already knows what we're going to choose before we choose.

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